Confined spaces in underground infrastructure are nothing like factory floors, and treating them the same is a mistake. In this episode of The Canary Report, host Michael Zalle sits down with Dennis Pivin, Director of Health, Safety, and Environmental at NASSCO, to talk about building better safety cultures, why simulators matter, and how to actually get executives to listen. It’s about worker-first training, data that proves impact, and the human side of safety leadership. If you care about real-world risk, this one's for you.

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Dennis Pivin, CSP, ASP, CHST, CIT, is the Director of Health, Safety, and Environmental at NASSCO, where he’s redefining how safety is taught and practiced in underground infrastructure. With over 25 years of experience in the construction and chemical industries, Dennis blends hands-on know-how with strategic leadership. From developing NASSCO’s confined space simulator to advising on litigation and compliance, his journey from an aspiring vet to safety trailblazer is rooted in one thing: protecting people through smarter systems and real-world training.